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Wednesday, May 3, 2017

Code Shutdown and Bystander Effect, Voltage gradients, and More

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown
    Sam, please understand I dont ascribe a darwinian explanation to the observed lack of toxicity of K-40.
    This is a very intersting point; Many, maybe MOST believe that if you find K-40 or background radiation is not dangerous/ healthy/ or very little danger that you give the green light to the nuclear industry. Actually if they would only stop and consider it, the OPPOSITE is the case!
    If the danger of sugar is assumed to be the same for all types, then the sugar industry would say their white stuff is no worse than honey or lactose or erythritol. It turns out erythritol is one of the only ways besides brushing and floss that STOPS cavities. A sugar that STOPS cavities, instead of causing. So the sugar industry cant say their white stuff is the same as any sugar. But you, the nuke industry and everybody else is saying one source of radiation is the same as the others, all dangerous.
    This is very important; The industry, scientists and media all compare the small amount of fallout to the huge amount of K-40. See Woods Hole to confirm this. This in fact does what you fear I am doing. It lets the nuclear industry off the hook, it gives them the green light. It legally, and conceptually allows them to exist and pollute at levels far below regulation standards because nobody can believe that one radiation source could be different than another. Just because they cant BELIEVE it DOESNT mean it isnt true! Specific activity is the obvious clue but there may be many,…
    • Sam Sam
      Thank you so much for your replies. I in no way want to give any justification for the
      the Nuclear Industry to exist and continue this insane irradiation that is ongoing and
      deadly. It surely is a conundrum this large amount of K-40 in our bodies and in the
      oceans. Twisted psychopathic thinking will find a way to justify deadly man made
      radiation as less harmful than this K-40. K-40 exists and definitely less harmful than
      in equal doses to other nucliedes. How less harmful would be interesting to know.
      If it was detrimental as you say we humans would of perished long ago. Perhaps
      the bodily degradation from K-40 is so slow in its weakening effects on the immune
      system and cellular matrix that it is not a significant factor in our mortality? Contra-
      naturum– our organisms may have successfully adapted to k-40 due our bio energic
      fields that may affect breakdown of isotopes differently…… what are the factors that
      affect radio active decay of isotopes in our bodies. This could be an angle of investigation.
      •  CodeShutdown
        SAM, new understanding of cellular biology creates an interesting picture; The potassium with its low level of K-40 creates an onion like layering of molecular thickness in alternating polarities. It conforms to the complex, dense and fractal cytoskeleton and the many proteins and structures like mitochondria. It becomes one interacting unit, as opposed to discrete blobs of stuff in a drop of water. This is the very health and life of the cell. When you puncture it with the smallest of electrodes to measure the electrolyte or whatever, it is enough to release ionic bonds and disrupt this liquid crystal coherent microcosm of man. This shows the fragility of the organized system. Even thought the ionization factor from the K-40 contributed to the free radical load, it is less than free radicals from biological function. Free radicals are REQUIRED for the health of the cell! Some researches find SECONDARY radiation of a very peculiar kind coming from the K-40; biophotons. These have been found to carry information even through quartz barriers. A report posted recently did a meta analysis of frequency effects. Some frequencies are health positive, some health negative. The beta and gamma have frequencies characteristic of different radioisotopes. This could also be a factor. The specific activity or radiation per mass is extraordinarily higher in Cs137 compared to K40. This means on a molecular level you have point sources of high ionization and voltage gradients.
        •  CodeShutdown
          SAM, hits to DNA are very few from K-40. The same is true for an equal amount of Cs137. Free radical damage is considered to be the primary mediator in DNA damage. But we have to realize that free radicals are part of the biological process. The deadly morbid effect of nuclear fallout have to be found in the differences, not similarities of background vs fallout.
          Free Radicals in the Physiological Control of Cell Function
          Wulf Dröge
          Physiological Reviews Published 1 January 2002

          At high concentrations, free radicals and radical-derived, nonradical reactive species are hazardous for living organisms and damage all major cellular constituents. At moderate concentrations, however, nitric oxide (NO), superoxide anion, and related reactive oxygen species (ROS) play an important role as regulatory mediators in signaling processes. Many of the ROS-mediated responses actually protect the cells against oxidative stress and reestablish “redox homeostasis.” Higher organisms, however, have evolved the use of NO and ROS also as signaling molecules for other physiological functions. These include regulation of vascular tone, monitoring of oxygen tension in the control of ventilation and erythropoietin production, and signal transduction from membrane receptors in various physiological processes. NO and ROS are typically generated in these cases by tightly regulated enzymes such as NO synthase (NOS) and NAD(P)H oxidase…

          continued…NO and ROS are typically generated in these cases by tightly regulated enzymes such as NO synthase (NOS) and NAD(P)H oxidase isoforms, respectively. In a given signaling protein, oxidative attack induces either a loss of function, a gain of function, or a switch to a different function. Excessive amounts of ROS may arise either from excessive stimulation of NAD(P)H oxidases or from less well-regulated sources such as the mitochondrial electron-transport chain. In mitochondria, ROS are generated as undesirable side products of the oxidative energy metabolism.

          • You have significantly advanced my understanding on this issue.
            I will download the posts, put them in a folder and call it the
            Code Copernicus Conumdrum on Differential Effects of Radiation
            The next step is to translate all this into a format where
            it can be easily understood and slip through defensive
            thought structures and help the world to comprehend what
            exactly is dangerous in nuclear radiation. A huge endeavor.
            I am not too optimistic as I think most people shut down on
            this and passively go on living overwhelmed by all things
            nuclear and willingly accept the party line that it is not that
            dangerous the sea of radiation we now live in.
            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown
              Thank you Sam. The details of the biology have been posted before and not included in the above response. Some of my memes;

              • "we live in a sea of radiation, the danger was insignificant until man added new radioisotopes.–Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds–"
              • we live in a sea of radiation; it caused no cancer or dead zones until man made nuclear fallout. –Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds–
              • "The world and our bodies have always been radioactive but only nuclear fallout has caused gargantuanism, deformity and mental retardation"
              • Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of fallout, I will fear no nuclear: for thou art with me; thy rad and thy ICRP graph they have retarded me.
              A simple analogy; Beach sand and broken shards of glass are made of the same material, silica. While walking on sand creates so many micro abrasions, the over all effect is healthy. What makes walking on a smaller amount of broken glass dangerous is the sharp points. Such sharp points occur from nuclear fallout. Short half life means intense radiation, and high radiation per mass means very sharp gradients of ionization. Busby and others covered some main features which explain the great danger of fallout which is 300 to 10,000 times worse than extrapolated by the standard dose model. Ionic extracellular bonds and gradients are never discussed. Voltage and ionic gradients are known formative factors in bio-morphogenesis…the form of things. These sharp radioactive gradients are likened to shards of broken glass on a paradise beach of sand…the same stuff

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