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Wednesday, August 17, 2016

Nuclear Waste Storage Underground at WIPP May Continue to Blow Up And There Will Be Nothing We Can Do About It

stock here: We never believed the "kitty litter" story, and THEY were never able to replicate the kitty litter problem even though they spent millions trying to.

 In response to an alternate theory that it was Plutonium and Americium decay that was responsible for the explosion, the DOE in all their wisdom had this to say:

“The overarching conclusion of the technical assessment team was that specific chemical contents inside one particular drum, in combination with physical configuration of the materials led to a chemical reaction that breached the drum,” said Steve Horak, a communications specialist with the DOE Environmental Management Field Office in Los Alamos.  “A separate DOE board of experts and an independent expert board confirmed these results and we see no reason to question them now.”


Ah I see.....just because you may have repeated and recurring plutonium explosion underground until the 2000 PSI barrier of overburden sand is breached and then all that nastiness will go shooting into our air....just because of that is "no reason to question the previous unproven theory of kitty litter now".   This goes beyond shame, this is criminal negligence, and Nuremberg trials are warranted.

But Bowman, a former scientist at LANL (former of course, because any currently employed $scientists that are speaking against the party line would be marginalized at best, attacked, or even fired) states that it was far more likely to be gasses caused by Plutonium and Americium decay that overpressurized and then burned and exploded once the container failed due to pressure.

http://www.lamonitor.com/content/doe-responds-new-wipp-leak-theory

“As matters now stand, explosive gas generation in WIPP will continue for millennia,” Bowman said. “This is a serious problem for the self-sealing, much advertised advantage of low-level waste storage in a salt deposit that will hermetically seal the explosive gas causing growing gas pressure with no means for release until it reaches the 2000-psi pressure of the overburden. However the most immediate danger at WIPP was created by the walling off of the room D7R7 where the exploding barrel was located and where 10,000 other gas-generating barrels are now isolated from WIPP’s improved ventilation system.”

19 comments:

  1. Kitty litter was always an (in our face admission) analogy to burying their shit underground

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    1. Great observation, we don't even get bullshit, we get the pre-cursor to bullshit.

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  2. there was a report in last few weeks stating that more barrels were found with no kitty litter at all.

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    1. I wonder the ramifications, and how they found out?

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  3. Arnie Gundersen has been speaking in the land down under about deep earth containment for nuclear waste. One of my friends sent me a post and I sent him one article. This one is very good since it has a scientific backing albeit the scientist no longer has a position.

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    1. Got any links I can review?

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    2. Dont trust Blundersen. Hes in it for a buck and has an ax to grind. Plus he was dead dog wrong about the moderated criticality as a matter of fact at Fukushima rather than theory. The forensic evidence or lack thereof sunk his ship. I wrote a paper about it.

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    3. Mark Laris seems to side with your view

      https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-laris-805619a

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    4. Of course. We have similar backgrounds however he has more power plant experience than me. Are you in his linkedin group?

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    5. Seems that Laris cannot come up with any of that "forensic evidence" proving no criticality at Fukushima.

      hmmm, how about you Loose Nuke, I mean you are still working for the Gov, certainly you have access to that "evidence", unless maybe, it doesn't exist

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  4. If kitty litter did it, it really cost a lot: August 22, 2016
    "When a drum containing radioactive waste blew up in an underground nuclear dump in New Mexico two years ago, the Energy Department rushed to quell concerns in the Carlsbad desert community and quickly reported progress on resuming operations.

    The early federal statements gave no hint that the blast had caused massive long-term damage to the dump, a facility crucial to the nuclear weapons cleanup program that spans the nation, or that it would jeopardize the Energy Department’s credibility in dealing with the tricky problem of radioactive waste.

    But the explosion ranks among the costliest nuclear accidents in U.S. history, according to a Times analysis. The long-term cost of the mishap could top $2 billion, an amount roughly in the range of the cleanup after the 1979 partial meltdown at the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant in Pennsylvania."
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-new-mexico-nuclear-dump-20160819-snap-story.html
    Plowboy

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    1. Sheesh, that only like $80 from every working person in the USA. They are sick of hearing us little people even complain.

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    2. Eff them, sorry for the f

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    3. Yet not one of the ratfarmers cared to comment on the 40 year operation of TMI Unit 1. It can now be told the worker cancer rates there next door are lower than the region average. Why is that? Oh my TMI was supposed to "render a geography the size of Pennsylvania uninhabited".

      Hollywood got it wrong. So did the antinuke clown show.

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    4. You are just venting, aren't you Lucey? Like TMI, They Melted It

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    5. Yet the majority of costs are administrative in nature. Very little if any risk to the public. The general publics impression of nuclear mishaps are wildly skewed to unrealistic consequences. Overexaggeration is de reguir for the antinuclear shit show.

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  5. They can pretty much do whatever they want on site as long as its within their approved Documented Safety Analysis or DSA. The DSA sets the most conservative accident scenarios so that the radiation dose at tbe site boundary is less than 1 rem. Frankly the first incident posed no risk to public health and safety. So wby are you squawking?

    Me thinks thou protest too much.

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  6. There were 2 reactors at TMI. The unaffected unit has run 40 yrs. And workers there are no worse off than the gen public. Maybe even better.

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