combomelt, from ENE used my list to create an awesome video, please watch it and drop a comment,
Some fresh lies of nuke:
- If you want solar PV you have to install lots of very expensive batteries.
- Don't be worried over nuclear. Its really small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.
They lie to our face and think we are stupid. There will be a backlash, a tipping point. These bronto cows will be TIPPED, lol
Another lie --about energy storage
Yes, we MUST DECLARE, our first Terra-Joule storage media, to implement it. And we must IMPLEMENT it, prior to shutting down the gawdawful NPP.
I guess that is a 2 liner lie of nuke, let me address the lie.
Implication that we must have Terr-Joule storage, invented, and built, before we shut down nuclear power plants. What utter rubbish, with simple conservation we could shut down all NPP in USA tomorrow. And we don't need Terra-Joule size storage, storage to even out renewable sources can be much more discrete and distributed, just like the power generated from PV. For instance, your car battery can be part of the storage solution.
No we don't need to implement EVERY solution to the future in order to start shutting down nuclear now. Phase it out, be smart about it, phase out the worst nuke and worst coal simultaneously.
Well I added another one liner lie. Rod Adams helped me find this lie when one of his twitter buddies did a post on how solar energy never has a chance for the future because making the solar energy devices takes more energy than they produce in their lifetime. Wow, the levels these pimps will stoop to to promote their 'precious' nuclear radiation cartel.
The reality is that for PV panels, it takes about 6 months of energy production of the device in order to offset the energy used in producing the device. And the lifetime is at least 30 years.
The lie in one liner form
"Solar Energy has no future because it takes more energy to create the solar system, than the solar system produces in it's lifetime"
You can probably use the search function to find some backup to each of these lies of nuclear. When someone, be it media, a research organization, a government speaker, whoever, starts pimping out one of these lies, then you can start reading their material in a new, more suspicious light.
As a future project, I intend on following each sentence with a link to a concise debunk of each of these lies. Its like shooting fish in a barrel. Anyone who wants to volunteer a link and debunk, send as a comment.
As you folks come across other nice One Liners, drop them as comments and I will add to the list.
- ''No immediate health effects''
- ''At safe levels to eat''
- ''Nuclear is safe"
- "Nuclear is cheap"
- ''Dispersion in the ocean makes it harmless''
- ''Dilution is the solution''
- ''Too low to measure''
- ''Safer than eating a banana''
- "Larger dose from flying on an airplane"
- "Sleeping next to someone gives you a larger radioactive dose"
- "Become I131 radiation rapidly depletes due to quick half life, we don't have to worry about any of the radiation."
- ''Nuclear power is cheap"
- ''Part of background''
- ''Definitely not caused by radiation''
- ''We can rule radiation out as the cause''
- ''No need to test''
- ''Harmless at current levels''
- ''It was a hydrogen explosion at Fukushima, impossible to have a nuclear explosion''
- "Because you cannot prove that the disease was caused by a specific radiation, the information is not valid until proven by the scientific method."
- "Nuclear is safe because they have backup power"
- "Nuclear is safe because background radiation is high, so don't worry about a little more"
- "The radiation from that release is in 'the noise' of the background radiation"
- "It's green and clean"
- "Nuclear is the only thing that can save the climate from excess carbon"
- "Nuclear plants have pooled insurance"
- "The nuclear plants were forced by the NRC to set aside enough money to fully decomission the plant when it is done with its life." ----------- Sellafield 70B
- "The original 40 year number wasn't the 'design life' it was just an arbitrary number that meant nothing"
- "When we are done with the plant, we will return the land in an untouched 'greenfield' condition"
- "The NRC makes nuclear industry safe by regulating them"
- "The IAEA regulates the worldwide nuclear industry"
- "No deaths caused by nuclear radiation from civilian plants"
- "Just keep smiling and radiation will not hurt you"
- "Thorium reactors are completely safe"
- "Defense in depth 'safety protocol' at nuke plants means that a major accident should only happen about every 2000 years."
- "All the nuclear waste in the world could fit in a football field"
- "The solution for nuclear waste is a single permanent repository"
- "Nuclear power emits ZERO CO2"
- "Reactors cannot blow up like nuclear bombs"
- "No radiation from Japan will reach the USA"
- "Price-Anderson is what brings nuclear regulation to any nuclear activity"
- "Our meters are so good, and can measure radiation so small, that we refuse to present any actual data because it will just scare people"
- "The fear of radiation is much more harmful than the radiation itself"
- "We are from the government, we are here to help"
- "A little bit of radiation is actually good for you, are you getting enough?"
- "At no time was there any danger to the public"
- "Just because a nuke worker was sent home 'unfit to work' doesn't actually mean anything important"
- "Fukushima not as bad as Chernobyl"
- "None of the radiation went into the ocean it was all contained in the 1.4 SQ KM 'zone' <Abe>"
- "Fukushima is in cold shutdown"
- "Fukushima will absolutely not effect the 2020 Olympics"
- "There are good people working in nuclear, therefore you shouldn't talk bad about their chosen profession"
- "Don't worry about living within 20 miles of a reactor, just take your iodine pill when the authorities tell you to, and you will be fine."
- "If you are Anti-Nuke, that means you are pro-coal"
- "If you are Anti-Civilian Nuclear Reactors, then you are anti- nuke submarines and therfore, anti national security"
- "There have only been a handful of nuclear accidents"
- "What you are measuring is leftover from the cold war bomb testing"
- "Cancer is normal and wide spread"
- "You can drink 32g of Plutonium and you'll be fine"
- "No one was killed by Fukushima"
- "There was no plutonium released by Fukushima"
- "No one could have predicted a tsunami so high"
- Reactor 4 was a hydrogen explosion with hydrogen transferred from Reactor 3 ------
- "Solar Energy has no future because it takes more energy to create the solar system, than the solar system produces in it's lifetime"
Add ons from readers!
- "Nuclear power is too cheap to meter"
- "There will always be power and backup generators to prevent a meltdown."
- "Humanity can contain the atom and it won't kill the innocent."
- "Each nuclear plant insures itself, and just in case their insurance runs out, there is plenty of extra coverage in 'pooled insurance' from all the reactors."
- "Entergy is NOT a slum lord"
- "Anyone who is opposed to nuclear power is a 'fearmonger' "
- "All those poor people in Japan are dying because they are homesick, they never should have been evacuated from Fukushima" <this coming from a nuclear engineering professor>
- "Diabetes in Fukushima kids being caused by radiophobic parent forcing kids to play indoors leading to unhealthy lifestyle"
- "Increased cancers in Japan cannot possibly be caused by Fukushima because cancer takes more time to grow."
- "No one died from Fukushima" ---- FOIA docs says otherwise 5 Death Lethal Rads
- "The radiation on the us coast is not from Fukushima but probably from red radioactive plastic eating utensils" -- We refuse to even rebutt this one, this statement by a State official is insulting in it's ignorance.
- "If we store it deep underground, everything will work out fine" AGR Fallacy of Nuke Storage
- "Plutonium and Americium are heavy metals, so they won't go very far in the air"
- "My family and I live here, therefore it must be safe" Said at the WIPP propagnda dissemination event.
- Arnie is pro-Nuke
- sodium reactors are safe
- Thorium reactors have no waste
- reactor grade plutonium is not the same as weapons grade plutonium
- transmutation the alchemist's dream
- Brown's Gas
- Roy's Process
- "cold" fusion
- nuclear energy is to increase water availability
- radioactive particles decay to safe non-radioactive particles
- radiation is good for you (aka whoremesis)
- safe repository
- clean and green
- no CO2 emissions
"Nobody could have predicted such rare occurrence.""We were previously unaware of problems.""Our best and brightest people are on the job.""It was only a minor incident.""Our customers are important to us."stock, do you have FactCheckers's one liner: expose children to radiation so they will be immune to radiation later in life.Troll at ENE: no thanks. You have your own anti nuke jihad ..I don't care for radicalized soldiers.
- The dropping of the Atomic Bomb at Hiroshima was necessary, it saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Debunk ---- http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html
I apologize to some contributors who listed their comments on other sites...while do multiple updates, some of my earliest started updates, "covered up" subsequent updates! Sheesh, I hate is when that happens. Maybe I'll just ask the NSA for an interim archive version, LOL!
30 Ways The Nuclear Industry Deceives Everyone; via @AGreenRoad
And let's not forget ''the scientific method'', without which where would we be lol.